EugenexYew
Apr 29, 02:52 AM
Technically, Apple DOES have a smallprint at the bottom of the page which reads:
Actual size and weight vary by configuration and manufacturing process.
Actual size and weight vary by configuration and manufacturing process.
ezekielrage_99
May 3, 08:22 AM
And yet prices in the Australian Apple Store are still 25% higher than the USA Store. How rude, Apple.
Top end 27" iMac = US$1999, or in the Australian Store, AUD$2299 which at the current exchange rate is about US$2500. Why should we pay more, Apple? If anything, we're closer to China so should pay less on shipping!
Whilst it's slightly better than yesterdays prices, I'm still seriously not happy.
I'd buy one if we got the USA prices.
I agree completely, but we are really paying more than 25%... Consider the AUD is 10% above the USD the Aussie store should be no more than 5% difference compared to the US store.
No mean to troll, but at least HP and Dell if you mention the cost of the USD they'll tend to match it as close as they can. I got a MX14 for the same price as the US store, $1200 Aussie compared to the $2299 on the Australian Alienware site. Still the minus being no Mac OSX, though it does have Redhat :o
Top end 27" iMac = US$1999, or in the Australian Store, AUD$2299 which at the current exchange rate is about US$2500. Why should we pay more, Apple? If anything, we're closer to China so should pay less on shipping!
Whilst it's slightly better than yesterdays prices, I'm still seriously not happy.
I'd buy one if we got the USA prices.
I agree completely, but we are really paying more than 25%... Consider the AUD is 10% above the USD the Aussie store should be no more than 5% difference compared to the US store.
No mean to troll, but at least HP and Dell if you mention the cost of the USD they'll tend to match it as close as they can. I got a MX14 for the same price as the US store, $1200 Aussie compared to the $2299 on the Australian Alienware site. Still the minus being no Mac OSX, though it does have Redhat :o
mtkagan
Mar 15, 10:39 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_6 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8E200 Safari/6533.18.5)
And I think they said they might get more in today, but I don't remember exactly?
Any eta on that I was the guy in the green oregon sweate. Had to take my friends back home and ill maybe come back. Anyone still in line after you holding out for another shipment
And I think they said they might get more in today, but I don't remember exactly?
Any eta on that I was the guy in the green oregon sweate. Had to take my friends back home and ill maybe come back. Anyone still in line after you holding out for another shipment
Snowy_River
Jul 12, 01:07 AM
At $79 a year it will probably be 5 years before the program moves to a commonly useful level where it may have the ability to replace MS Office. The very casual Word Processor user will not have to wait very long, maybe Pages 3 or Pages 4. With the 5 X $79 = $395 we move into the price range of the non-educational price of MS Office. But for the heavy Office user, 5 years may not be long enough...
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
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wmmk
Jul 10, 12:29 PM
if charts can do basic formulas (using mostly only simple arithmetic), pages has a word processing mode, grammar check, and integrates with a thesaurus, wikipeida, spotlight, and google, office is immediately deleted from my system:D
one problem:
will eductional institutions really want the wikipedia integration? my school is certainly not big on wikipedia. if apple could strike a deal with MacKiev, World Book software could come with iWork and be integrated with pages and the whole suite in general.
one problem:
will eductional institutions really want the wikipedia integration? my school is certainly not big on wikipedia. if apple could strike a deal with MacKiev, World Book software could come with iWork and be integrated with pages and the whole suite in general.
Mac-Addict
Oct 24, 09:02 AM
For the "why only MBP's and not MB's too"
As said, less press coverage, but also maybe more important is that now there is a gap between the [rosumer line and the consumer line ;)
Is that good or bad..?
As said, less press coverage, but also maybe more important is that now there is a gap between the [rosumer line and the consumer line ;)
Is that good or bad..?
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macFanDave
Jul 21, 02:44 PM
They're behind Gateway in number of units shipped. Gateway produces and ships more units than Apple.
Michael, read shawnce's message #61. It's exactly how I wanted to reply to your statement, only better.
About market share, there is an optimal level, I believe. Too low and the issue of third-party applications and peripherals becomes a problem. However, if Apple's marketshare gets too high, there could be some anti-trust problems.
Let's face it: Apple is a monopoly, but with such a small market share, it is a monopoly that we have freely chosen to deal with. We Mac consumers cannot go to the DOJ and claim we have no alternatives (just because your alternatives suck doesn't mean you don't have them.) If Apple were wildly successful and exceeded this threshold market share, their business model may be interfered with by the government.
10% should be far below that threshold.
Michael, read shawnce's message #61. It's exactly how I wanted to reply to your statement, only better.
About market share, there is an optimal level, I believe. Too low and the issue of third-party applications and peripherals becomes a problem. However, if Apple's marketshare gets too high, there could be some anti-trust problems.
Let's face it: Apple is a monopoly, but with such a small market share, it is a monopoly that we have freely chosen to deal with. We Mac consumers cannot go to the DOJ and claim we have no alternatives (just because your alternatives suck doesn't mean you don't have them.) If Apple were wildly successful and exceeded this threshold market share, their business model may be interfered with by the government.
10% should be far below that threshold.
haruhiko
Apr 13, 07:59 PM
Okay, we know that, it will come eventually.
It's really annoying.
It's really annoying.
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PghLondon
Apr 28, 11:26 AM
This is fun.
Yes, the iPhone does compete against Android. The last time I went into a AT&T or Verizon store, this was obvious. To say that the iPhone does not compete against Android is silly.
WRONG. iPhone = hardware. Android = software.
iOS competes against Android.
Because there is only two hardware choices, the iPhone 4 or iPhone 3GS. Making this argument is so empty, in that it does not take into account the reasons behind it.
WRONG. The choice is iPhone OR any Android phone OR any Win7 Phone OR any RIM phone, etc.
Hello Mr. Straw man. The article was about iPhone; if you read it it states "covering U.S. mobile phone sales". Now, if by mobile OS, you are also adding in the iPad, that is debatable. I've been a iPad 3G owner since April 30th and I can tell you that I do not consider the iPad a mobile device. Sure, its easy to carry, but to lump in its sales with phone handset sales is a stretch. If you are making that stretch, how about adding netbooks into the mix as well?
If those netbooks ran Android, I'd count them. But they don't. And YOU'RE bringing up straw men? Phone versus non-phone makes no difference if they're running the same OS and same apps.
When your sales numbers for phones are ~50% of that of your competitor; whereas a few years ago they were barely a blip, then yes that means they are getting kicked in the teeth in handset OS sales.
In your mind maybe. But only in your mind.
PS: Handset OS sales? What the hell does that mean?
Yes, the iPhone does compete against Android. The last time I went into a AT&T or Verizon store, this was obvious. To say that the iPhone does not compete against Android is silly.
WRONG. iPhone = hardware. Android = software.
iOS competes against Android.
Because there is only two hardware choices, the iPhone 4 or iPhone 3GS. Making this argument is so empty, in that it does not take into account the reasons behind it.
WRONG. The choice is iPhone OR any Android phone OR any Win7 Phone OR any RIM phone, etc.
Hello Mr. Straw man. The article was about iPhone; if you read it it states "covering U.S. mobile phone sales". Now, if by mobile OS, you are also adding in the iPad, that is debatable. I've been a iPad 3G owner since April 30th and I can tell you that I do not consider the iPad a mobile device. Sure, its easy to carry, but to lump in its sales with phone handset sales is a stretch. If you are making that stretch, how about adding netbooks into the mix as well?
If those netbooks ran Android, I'd count them. But they don't. And YOU'RE bringing up straw men? Phone versus non-phone makes no difference if they're running the same OS and same apps.
When your sales numbers for phones are ~50% of that of your competitor; whereas a few years ago they were barely a blip, then yes that means they are getting kicked in the teeth in handset OS sales.
In your mind maybe. But only in your mind.
PS: Handset OS sales? What the hell does that mean?
Warbrain
Apr 28, 03:58 PM
Highly doubt it. Might just be an issue that a few devices are having but not across the board.
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Umbongo
May 3, 07:45 AM
Not really sure why Apple can't bring themselves to put an i7 by default in a $2,000 machine. That's kind of ridiculous.
Because it would cost them another $100 in parts without increasing sales. This way they make more money per sale and will make even more from those who want it. There would be no processor upgrade path if they put the i7 as default.
Because it would cost them another $100 in parts without increasing sales. This way they make more money per sale and will make even more from those who want it. There would be no processor upgrade path if they put the i7 as default.
shervieux
Apr 1, 08:12 AM
That may be ok in iOS and on my iPad as it is easy to use with touch technology, but as more and more business professionals are adopting mac laptops, iMacs or Mac Pros - that is very unprofessional looking to be on a potential business computer. I know Apple wants to be uniform across devices and we are moving closer and closer to everything being iOS as the main operating system. But seriously, businesses will think that is not professional and we are going back to the non-uniform weird looking DOS-based application days. It is true, there is no uniforminality in the apps in the app store. It is having a consistent UI that made it easier for everyone to adopt Windows back in the day. Every application had the same looking and functionality in the GUI; so there was no learning curve.
That iCal may be easy to use, but is unprofessional looking for potential business computers. Also, many people use ical as it integrates so well with other applications. I still say combine Apple Mail, iCal, and address book into 1 application - so I do not have to have 3 apps open taking up screen space and using more resources. That is what we have in Windows and Linux.
AND KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL LOOKING!
As from what people are posting on the new iCal and Apple Mail, I am afraid the OS is becoming less business intuitive, less functionality, less uniforminality among apps. Something that may hurt Apple more with trying to integrate into the business world.
With the old iCal, I can choose what events I want to see. I can have separate calendars for items, etc. I have several apps that have their own calendar in ical - which allows me turn on or off viewing them with a check box.
edit - Although I am looking forward to a uniformed iChat.
That iCal may be easy to use, but is unprofessional looking for potential business computers. Also, many people use ical as it integrates so well with other applications. I still say combine Apple Mail, iCal, and address book into 1 application - so I do not have to have 3 apps open taking up screen space and using more resources. That is what we have in Windows and Linux.
AND KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL LOOKING!
As from what people are posting on the new iCal and Apple Mail, I am afraid the OS is becoming less business intuitive, less functionality, less uniforminality among apps. Something that may hurt Apple more with trying to integrate into the business world.
With the old iCal, I can choose what events I want to see. I can have separate calendars for items, etc. I have several apps that have their own calendar in ical - which allows me turn on or off viewing them with a check box.
edit - Although I am looking forward to a uniformed iChat.
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boncellis
Jul 11, 06:29 PM
...D) Who the hell is COWON?!? - It's sounds like one of those "Simpsons brands" like Sorny.
Lol. Good times...
This doesn't spell doom for anyone or anything. Companies that are afraid of competition usually never stood much of a chance in the first place--Mr. Jobs has thrived under these conditions over the past 5+ years, I would expect nothing less now.
Lol. Good times...
This doesn't spell doom for anyone or anything. Companies that are afraid of competition usually never stood much of a chance in the first place--Mr. Jobs has thrived under these conditions over the past 5+ years, I would expect nothing less now.
ipodtoucher
Apr 8, 06:40 PM
Here's my contribution for the day, spent my shift today playing around with Totally Rad Action Set :)
National Cathedral
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/5601889126_faedfdd88f_b.jpg
National Cathedral
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/5601889126_faedfdd88f_b.jpg
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OllyW
Apr 22, 05:16 PM
Looks like a Samsung. ;)
TwoSocEmBoppers
Mar 15, 01:03 AM
Yay sold the iPad tonight! So officially buying one tomorrow.
I'm going to try to go to Brea around 8:30. You think that is early enough?
Also, Brea my best bet or other stores have less people/more inventory?
I'm going to try to go to Brea around 8:30. You think that is early enough?
Also, Brea my best bet or other stores have less people/more inventory?
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PeterQVenkman
Apr 13, 07:25 PM
Anyone feel confident buying a white one given the problems they've had getting one made?
Intell
Apr 25, 04:05 PM
It was a lovely party, with everyone dressed up in their finest costumes and wears. lbro was a rock star wearing a fur coat, Plutonius was a musketeer, and nies was that dude that discovered the Galapagos. He even had a stuffed dog named Bagel. By early morning the party goers where going home and the lights where being snuffed out.
chrmjenkins was part way through his first cup of tea of the morning, when his good friend, appleguy312 burst through the door wielding a towel and satchel. "Going out for a walk?" said chrmjenkins as he chocked on his tea. "We gotta go, NOW" said appleguy213 as he went through chrmjenkins' linen closet. "Here we are!" exclaimed appleguy123 as he pulled out a pink flowery bath towel. He promptly pushed chrmjenkins out the door of his little bungalow and out on to the front lawn.
"What are those things?!?" demanded chrmjenkins as he pointed to the blocks floating in the sky above.
"Wolves, they're here to eat the people then mine the world to make a new super Wal-Mart and diamond picks." appleguy312 spoke these words as he fiddled with something around his lowest finger (Giggity). "We need to get a signal to escape! Take my hand!"
And with that they vanished into the sky, with chrmjenkins trailing drool out of his unconscious mouth.
selena gomez who says video.
chrmjenkins was part way through his first cup of tea of the morning, when his good friend, appleguy312 burst through the door wielding a towel and satchel. "Going out for a walk?" said chrmjenkins as he chocked on his tea. "We gotta go, NOW" said appleguy213 as he went through chrmjenkins' linen closet. "Here we are!" exclaimed appleguy123 as he pulled out a pink flowery bath towel. He promptly pushed chrmjenkins out the door of his little bungalow and out on to the front lawn.
"What are those things?!?" demanded chrmjenkins as he pointed to the blocks floating in the sky above.
"Wolves, they're here to eat the people then mine the world to make a new super Wal-Mart and diamond picks." appleguy312 spoke these words as he fiddled with something around his lowest finger (Giggity). "We need to get a signal to escape! Take my hand!"
And with that they vanished into the sky, with chrmjenkins trailing drool out of his unconscious mouth.
quigleybc
Aug 15, 04:23 PM
Still... meh.
I agree,
Can't wait to spend $130.00 for those features !! :rolleyes:
too bad I totally will.....:o
I agree,
Can't wait to spend $130.00 for those features !! :rolleyes:
too bad I totally will.....:o
caspersoong
Apr 14, 03:44 AM
Why on earth would this happen? Why would they edit it to include the ix.Mac.MarketingName? I don't understand. Is there any logical explanation? I don't think it is a typo because I don't think Apple is stupid enough to edit it just in order to put a typo in. Weird.
UniPro
Mar 11, 12:13 PM
Wow, 150 people at Brea? That's nuts. I got mine at South Coast last year but that was a month after release.
Not really sure where I'm going yet. I think I may try Cerritos or a Best Buy...
Not really sure where I'm going yet. I think I may try Cerritos or a Best Buy...
zen
Apr 19, 12:39 AM
For those experiencing the "device is not eligible for this build" error, the solution is up at the Apple support discussions. (https://discussions.apple.com/message/13386595?messageID=13386595)
AndroidfoLife
Apr 14, 12:20 AM
Apple has it all down to a science. They probably have algorithm's for getting the most possible money out of you.....if you don't see this your blind...Wait for something that actually makes a difference...not just a different color. As if they ever intended to release the white iphone at the same time as the black one hahahaha :rolleyes:
You do seem to have a point
You do seem to have a point
purelithium
Jul 24, 07:52 PM
Damnit! 3 Weeks after I buy my regular mighty mouse...
